Evangelist leader Franklin Graham says he is an outspoken supporter of Donald Trump because he defends the Christian faith…and all that lying and cheating that Trump does isn’t that big of a deal.

“Now people say ‘Well Frank but how can you defend him, when he’s lived such a sordid life?'” Graham said on “Axios on HBO,” appearing to reference things such as the multiple allegations of sexual misconduct against Trump.

“I never said he was the best example of the Christian faith. He defends the faith. And I appreciate that very much.”

Axios notes that later in the interview Graham, the president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, doubled down on his defense of Trump despite his treatment of women.

“Trump has admitted his faults and has apologized to his wife and his daughter for things he has done and said,” he said. “And he has to stand before God for those things.”

Graham has been a vocal supporter of the president throughout his time in office. He went on a 10-rally tour in California this summer and encouraged Christians to vote in an effort to combat progressive policy in the state.

He said in January that he believed Trump was a “changed person” since assuming office.

The comment came after reports surfaced that Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, arranged a $130,000 payment for adult-film star Stormy Daniels to keep her quiet about an alleged affair with the president.

“I believe that he’s a changed person and I’ve never seen anybody get attacked like he gets attacked,” Graham said. “These alleged affairs, they’re alleged with Trump, didn’t happen while he was in office.”

Graham also brushed aside concerns about the church becoming too Republican affiliated, “Well first of all, I’m going to support politicians that are going to support the Christian faith whether they’re Democrats, Republicans, Independents. Politicians that are going to guarantee my freedom of worship. And I appreciate the president has appointed now two conservative judges that are going to defend religious freedom, so amen to that.”

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